Bobby Caldwell is a
drummer who played with some of the hottest acts of the ’70s. He got his start by
joining Johnny Winter And. The Johnny
Winter And Live album starts
off with Bobby’s drum groove of “Good Morning, School Girl.” The drum groove is
very infectious and energetic and sets up a genuinely exciting tone that the
whole live album will carry. Bobby’s playing is one of several reasons (not
least of which is the excellent guitar playing by Johnny Winter and Rick
Derringer) Johnny Winter And Live is considered one of the finest live albums
out there. Caldwell would also jam with the Allman Brothers on the live Fillmore shows that appeared on At Fillmore East and Eat A Peach. Caldwell's actual album appearance is on "Drunken Hearted Boy" of The Fillmore Concerts.
After Winter, Bobby would become part of a group whose members consisted
of Rod Evans (of Deep Purple), Lee Dorman and Larry “Rhino” Reinhardt (of Iron
Butterfly). The combination of all
four talents made one of the best cult rock bands out there, Captain Beyond.
The debut album is one of this author’s
favorite and most-listened to record. The music was unlike what any of the four
members did. While it does contain
the heaviness of Iron Butterfly and Deep Purple, the music contains a lot of
jazz and progressive rock elements, with the lyrics of a sci-fi bent. As with Johnny Winter, Bobby starts off the
album with another exciting drum groove of “Dancing Madly Backwards” that will
set the tone for the rest of the album. Although
Bobby did not appear on the next album, Sufficiently Breathless, he
did appear on Rick Derringer’s classic All-American
Boy album (containing Rick’s biggest
hit “Rock ’n Roll, Hootchie Koo”) and rejoin Captain Beyond on tour, which came
to an end when Rod Evans left the band.
Bobby went on to join
another band, Armageddon, which was led by the late Keith Relf (of the
Yardbirds). Although Armageddon would last only one album, that album remains a
cult favorite of ’70s rock. Armageddon
is similar to Captain Beyond in that it is progressive and heavy. When Armageddon disbanded, Bobby went on to
reform Captain Beyond, with Willy Daffern taking over for vocals. The band
would break up shortly only to reform again from 1998 to 2003, with Bobby and
Larry “Rhino” Reinhardt the only original members left.
In this candid conversation, we look back at
Bobby’s work, including Johnny Winter, The Allman Brothers, Captain Beyond and
Armageddon. Bobby is also a metaphysics minster, which we discuss in this
interview. I want to thank Kim Reilly of Seaside Music Management for setting
up the interview, but most of all I want to thank Bobby.
Jeff Cramer: What made you pick
up your sticks?
Bobby Caldwell: Gosh, how did I
start playing drums? When I was a child probably around, I wanna say probably
10 or 11 years old is when I had pretty much decided I was gonna play drums. There
was other instruments around at the time that were popular. You’re always
influenced by, if everybody was playing the kazoo those days, at 14, you go,
“Wow, you know, I might play kazoo,” so that’s pretty much how it started and I
just had an interest in it. I used to go see all these bands, you know, that
were much older than me.
I mean I could scarcely get in. I’d
have to get my mother to drive me to these dances and walk me in because they
were 9
th graders, you know, high school kids, and the bands that
were playing these dances and I’m this little guy in the 6
th grade,
you know,
[laughter] so that’s pretty
much how it started.
JC: Okay, going from
there, how did you first get the attention of Duane Allman and Johnny
Winter?
BC: Well, that’s an
interesting question. It’s a very long answer that I’ll try to make brief. I
had been trying to get a break after paying my dues in Florida with a band
called Noah’s Ark. I was going to New York and doing all these things, you
know, and I was in high school and after several years of paying my dues what
happened was, on a very hot summer afternoon, this guy that worked for Noah’s
Ark called me on the phone. He said, “Hey, how would you like to come over and
jam with Johnny Winter?” and I said, “I wouldn’t,” and he said, “Oh come on,
man,” he said, “Just come over and jam a little while with ’em,” you know, and
I’m not really big into jamming and that was really a reason.
JC: Okay, that’s interesting
you say that because the two live albums you do with Johnny and the Allmans
have a lot of jamming.
BC: Yeah, well,
there’s no choice in that case. But just going in to jam with people, like if
someone called me and they go, “You wanna come down with me to this place
tonight and jam,” I’m not interested, so I wasn’t interested then, and if you
wanna play songs and arrangements and this and that and that’s great. So anyway,
he just persuaded me to come over. I went over to this house and all these
people were in their car standing around and it was at this guy’s parents’
house, and my friend Dave who had called me, I said, “Well how long do you
think it will be or --?” “Oh I don’t know, you know, not too long,” you know,
and it’s blazing outside and people are coming in and out and in and out and
I’m thinking, “What in the world?! Okay fine,” you know, so I’m still standing
there, you know, and after an hour and a half goes by I said, “Are you – Dave,
do you know when is this gonna happen? Because I’m gonna just go home and take
my girlfriend out and whatever,” and we went around it. “Oh no, Bobby, stay,
just stay, come on, it’s fine, you know, it won’t be long,” you know, and so
more time went by and I still didn’t go in and people are, like, coming in and
out -- and I’m like, “What in heaven’s name?!” So finally he comes up to me and
says, “Okay, ready for you” and whatever. Well at this point I was hot,
somewhat frustrated with the whole thing of it and so I went in and as I
stepped through the doorway there was
[Johnny’s
managers] Steve Paul, Teddy Slatus,
[musicians] Edgar Winter, Johnny Winter,
Rick Derringer, Randy Hobbs and maybe a roadie or two and I said hi to ’em all,
you know, and I went over and I sat down on this set of drums that wasn’t very
good and I just started playing this, like, blistering sort of drum pattern and
they all just all of a sudden started playing with me and so I’m thinking, “Oh
okay, yeah, this is fine, you know? Whatever, I’m here, let’s do it,” you know
and about 30 minutes later it comes to this screeching halt and Johnny says,
“I’d like for you to join my band,” and Edgar who’s standing behind him goes,
“I’d like you to join my band.”
JC:[Laughter] Okay.
BC:And so it really
went like that. But here’s the part that is the real part of it is that none of
this was a jam at all. All of it was an audition, only I wasn’t told that
[laughter] so that’s how it happened,
and I joined Johnny and Rick and them and we were off to the races.
JC: You started off an
album, Johnny Winter And Live, that
is very energetic by your drum groove opening for “Good Morning, Little School
Girl.” [To listen to “Good Morning, Little School Girl,” click here.]
BC: Uh-huh.
JC:The band is playing
with so much energy and there are these great covers of famous songs. For
instance, when you get to “Great Balls of Fire,” you’re not even missing the
piano that’s usually there, you know?
BC: That’s right. That’s
right. Well that’s a lot to do with Rick’s guitar playing and that’s also a lot
to do with Randy Hobbs’ bass playing and me because Randy Hobbs was a great player.
I mean he’s a guy that you wouldn’t even think probably twice about in the pantheon
of great bass players but this guy could really play in the groove and so a lot
of that is why that – you’re very observant about that and a lot of this is why
this came off like that because there was a lot of fire and we could play
anything.
Bobby (second to left) in
Johnny Winter And
JC: Around that time
how did you get to be jamming with the Allmans on the Fillmore Concerts?
BC: I had been playing
with the Allmans way before I met Johnny.
JC: Okay, let’s talk
about that, then.
BC: I had been playing
with the Allman Brothers off-and-on when they were virtually unknown and I had
become quite good friends with the band and so when I joined Johnny I ran into Duane
and the band in New York and when I told him what had happened – that I had
gotten on with Johnny –, he was just elated. He was so – Duane was the kinda
guy that was … he was happy for you, and so my relationship had gone sometime
before that.
Bobby and Duane Allman
BC:Well, here’s the
strange part about that. When that
Fillmore
East album – are you talking about
The
Allmans Live at The Fillmore East?
JC: Yes, yes.
BC: When that was
recorded, Johnny Winter And was headlining. A lot of people don’t know that.
JC: No, that’s
interesting, because I even know it was still edited down to make a double album
but it indicates that the Allmans, who were not headliners, were on stage for
quite some time.
BC:Yeah, they were. It
was Johnny Winter And, the Allman Brothers Band and the Elvin Bishop Group.
JC: Okay, yeah, what a
line-up.
BC: And it was sold
out. You couldn’t have squeezed anybody into that place, backstage, on the
roof, the basement, in the front, I mean – and I played with the Allman
Brothers and then I went back, changed my clothes, waited about an hour and
came back out and played with Johnny.
JC: Right, so
basically you’re with the Allmans throughout the whole entire gig and then you
went to [laughter] Johnny.
BC: That’s correct. I
played. I played.
JC: Wow, because I’ve
heard live albums and, wow, both would take a lot out of a performer.
And that all happened. That
was all. It was a fantastic night and that
Fillmore
East with the Allmans was unbelievable. I mean even now when I listen to
it. A lot of people are big, big live album fans and, “What do you rank about
this and that? Who do you rank…” and they rank the
Johnny Winter And Live album
the first one. But that Allman Brothers, they were on fire that night. Well, I
mean, it was the whole weekend.
JC: Yes.
BC:So I mean it,
just, oh man. I just can’t tell you. It was just phenomenal. And I was just
playing percussion as I always did with them and then on a few songs I would
play drums on “Midnight Rider,” a few different things.
JC: Ok. Now I guess
the question is what happened with the Johnny Winter And Band? Like how could it
…?
BC: How could it be
going such great guns and all of a sudden …
JC: It stopped.
BC: Right. Part of it
was – part of it was drug use. I mean everybody in those times, Jeff, and this
is not to justify it or to say it’s right or wrong. I don’t personally give a
shit. All things in life are just experiences. Some of them are pleasant and
some are unpleasant but you don’t know until you try it and that’s fine. No
judgment. I think by that time Johnny was tired. He had had several years of
just unbelievable amounts of scrutiny and people pouring all over him and
giving him no space and this and that so he just needed to take some time off. That
was basically what it was. It was several factors.
JC: From there I guess
you focused on Captain Beyond?
BC: That’s right.
Captain Beyond (Bobby on Left)
JC: Ok. And how did
that form?
BC: Well Rhino and Lee
Dorman I had known. I had known Rhino several years because we were both from
Florida and I had met Lee when he was with Iron Butterfly and Iron Butterfly
were one of the biggest dollar concert attractions in the world. They had
approached me about would I be interested in getting a band together and when
Johnny Winter And stopped I thought, “May as well.” And so that’s what
happened. I went out there and we started putting the band together.
JC: How did you get
Rod Evans?
BC: Rod was there
before I got there. They had met him through someone and that’s how that
happened. I think that happened through the Butterfly’s management that he was,
his number was passed to Lee or something. I think that’s what happened.
JC: Ok, now you wrote
the lyrics to that album.
BC: Many of them. Some
I didn’t.
JC: The thing is that
Captain Beyond was unlike what all four of you had done before. How did you
come up with it?
BC: Well the vision of
Captain Beyond – odd time signatures, the arranges – most of that stuff was me,
because long before, long before, years before I was – and I’ve always been a
jazz guy and I remember saying to Butch Trucks one night in Boston or going
down to see Elvin Jones or somebody and I said – I was kind of whining about
how, “I just want to do some really creative music like you cats are doing. I
love playing what we’re doing but …” and he said, “Oh just make all the money
you can and then you don’t need to worry about it and you can do whatever you
want.”
So I had brought all of these
ideas I had been sitting on a long time into the band if I could get it together
so that’s what happened and then we started experimenting with different things
and that’s how it happened. Rod being a superb lyricist. I mean this guy is
phenomenal. The only person I know that can write like him is the late Keith
Relf from the Yardbirds. It’s just spectacular. Even now when I listen and Rod
wrote “Mesmerization Eclipse.” He wrote “Armworth.” He wrote something else I
forget so it just started coming together.
JC: I really love that
drum opening beginning for “Dancing Madly Backwards.”
BC: You know Jeff
that’s a fluky thing and I could tell you that was a pattern that I could play
at any given day even now or I could play different patterns similar or
different than that right now not even thinking about it because I’d just be
fooling around and I remember sitting down many times going [
humming the drum opening of “Dancing Madly
Backward”]. It’s not a big deal but then when we decided to put it on the
front of the song and Rhino came up with the [
hums the guitar riff of “Dancing Madly Backward”]. So it all
started coming together. It was a real magical collaboration really. [
To hear “Dancing Madly Backwards” live,
click here.]
I mean most of that music was all
– the Captain Beyond was really Rhino and me and Rod. I mean Lee, I love Lee. I
miss him a lot. He’s a fantastic man. I used to live with him. But if you’re
talking about the contributions – he would tell you if he was sitting here – that
was really who were behind that stuff, but we included people’s names because
it was the proper thing to do or so we thought. Are we the Monkees? Hell,
everybody gets their name on it. Well, there’s only two people over here doing
all the writing. It all worked out.
JC: Now you went on
tour and everything but you wouldn’t be back for the next album. What happened?
BC: We went on a huge
tour.
JC: Right.
BC: Major tour, six
months. There was some kind of standoff about something silly I’m sure. I can’t
really remember what it was. That’s how ridiculous it was. But Larry was
attempting to power play me and I said, “I don’t think so.”
JC: Larry – we’re
talking about Rhino?
BC: I always call
Rhino Larry. It was something – it was very petty. Honestly it really didn’t
mean a whole lot so I just thought “Ok. Well look. I don’t want to sit here and
fight or argue about it. I don’t know what we’re arguing about so I’m just
going to take a break from the band and you find somebody else to play and if
we can resolve this then maybe I’ll come back.” That was what it was. That’s
what happened.
JC: Now I understand
you did come back for the tour when they toured behind the second album.
BC:Yes. That’s right.
I did come back. Because Captain Beyond was the four of us. That’s it. That was
the band. I did come back. And I wanted to come back. I put a lot of time and
energy and creative juice into that stuff. I wanted to reap the rewards of it
because this was an experiment of mine remember. I was thinking to myself – remember
when I was telling you about back with Butch and all that? – and I’d been
thinking, “If I can just get the right thing together.” So a lot of it – there
was a personal interest in it. It really wasn’t money. It was really just the
creative part of it like “A-ha! I knew this would be right.” I knew this would
be great if I was given the chance to do it so it was really that kind of
thing.
JC: And, like Johnny
Winter And, it broke up while the momentum was going …
BC:What happened was
Rod walked in. We were getting ready to prepare for another album and Rod
walked in at the rehearsal hall after Christmas break and said, “I’m leaving
the group.” Everybody was in disbelief literally. There had never been any hard
feelings with Rod. There was never any shouting matches. There was no – we
couldn’t really figure out why. So that’s what happened.
JC: Ok. You then
reteam with both Rick Derringer and Johnny Winter. Let’s start up with the All
American Boy album. Now I know that Rick
played a lot of the instruments with you only on drums for that album.
BC: Correct.
JC: Ok. How did that
come about?
BC: Well, Rick just
asked me, said, “I’ve got an offer to do a solo record deal and how would you
like to play on it?” That was it. We did it out in Colorado. The two of us
really were there most of the time. It was a very interesting experience
actually because we had a lot of fun. Caribou Ranch is a special – was a
special place. All the food was catered. You had these luxurious log cabins for
rooms. I mean it’s in the mountains. It was just stunning actually.
JC: There’s also one
track that I liked that was recorded during the All-American Boy sessions, which later appeared on his next
one Spring Fever:
“Rock.”
BC: Yeah.
JC: I like the fills.
Were you actually there when Chick Corea played keyboards on that track?
BC: I wasn’t there if
that happened. The
Spring Fever
album, that’s the one that has that …
JC: That pretty boy
image. Yes.
BC: Like Raquel. Yeah.
I’m with you.
[To listen to “Rock”, click
here.]
JC: You also played on
Johnny Winter’s Saints and
Sinners. Where are you exactly on that
album?
BC:Well it’s been a
while since I listened to it. It’s only a few tracks. I think I played on “Stone
County.” I played on – there was a couple others. Did that up in New York.
JC:Ok. Then I guess Armageddon
happened, or was there something in between that?
BC: Well, all of this
kind of was going – all of this was going on simultaneously. Ok? It was all
going on simultaneously. And in other words it wasn’t like one thing ended and
the next one started. Things were overlapping and people are calling you and
it’s like if your friends called you and there’s several, there’s three or four
things that people are asking if you’d like to do on Friday night. There’s just
multiple things that are going on. So I ran into Keith Relf in Los Angeles and
I asked him what he was doing. He said he had come to LA to put a new band
together and he had two of his band mates with him, Martin Pugh and Louis Cennamo,
and it’s interesting. I said, “Who’s going to be playing drums on this?” “Don’t
know yet.” I was thinking kind of like, “Here’s a guy that I’ve always really
admired.” I had seen the Yardbirds many times. I thought, “Holy crap. I know how great this
band’s going to be.” What happened was we left – goodbye or “here’s my number”
or something – and a few weeks later the phone rang and it was Keith and so we
got together and played and boom. There you go.
JC: It’s interesting
that Armageddon is closer to Captain Beyond than the Yardbirds
BC: I think so. I mean
it was – it was a great band. Spectacular band. Yeah. It was a great band and
just a bunch of great people and I loved all of those guys and Martin I still
talk to. But yeah that’s what happened and we were off to the races, and we
went to England and recorded the first album.
Bobby (far left) in
Armageddon
JC: But that would
only be one album that line-up did.
BC: That’s right.
JC: What happened
then? How did that fall apart?
BC: It was a lot of
problem for Keith’s children. Keith had two young sons and we were living in LA
but we were back in London and I think he was very torn about what to do. He
didn’t want to leave without his boys so it was a real conundrum. I mean it was
but we had full backing from the record company. They would have done anything
for us but the management is what sunk that ship.
It wasn’t Keith’s problem, which
could be part of it, but the manager: we had was a chap out of New York and he
disappeared and we couldn’t do anything. The record company couldn’t do
anything legally. We couldn’t go make any decisions on our own for fear of
being sued. We couldn’t do this because we had signed this management deal. You’re
screwed. That’s it. So it was really the management that finally sunk that ship
and Martin and I went back to LA and in time it just sort of ground to a halt
because we couldn’t go anywhere. We couldn’t get anything going. It was really
a drag. There’s a lot of work that goes into those bands – I mean enormous
amounts of work – and so for someone or some type of something that disables
it, it’s a big blow.
JC: Actually one thing
I wanted to get to is that Keith’s voice reminds me of Jon Anderson on Yes in
that one. He doesn’t sound the same like he did with the Yardbirds?
BC: You think so? Probably
that was the way it was mixed. His voice should have been EQed a little bit
better.
JC: Yeah. I just
noticed it sounded a little different. Like I wouldn’t have recognized it was
Keith from the Yardbirds if the credits weren’t there, you know?
BC: Yeah. It was
probably lacking some of those mid to low end on it. I hear you.
[To hear Armageddon’s “Buzzard”, please
click here.]
JC:So I guess the
next thing was the reformed Captain Beyond.
BC: Yeah. We decided
to try to put the band back together without Rod and we tried out a host of
people and finally settled on one. It was never the same.
Warner
Brothers wanted the band back and we went out, we were busy and people were
still responding and happy and so on, but it wasn’t the same band, so by the
late ’70s it had pretty much stopped.
Captain Beyond with
Willy Daffern, 1977
JC: Yeah, ’cause no offense
to the other singer Willy Daffern, but I agree with you, it was not the same. Rod
I hear actually disappeared. Did you ever talk to him again?
BC: I still to talk
Rod. Yeah.
JC: You still do?
BC: Oh sure.
JC: Oh, ’cause I hear
he’s been a hard-to-find guy from what I understand.
BC: You won’t be able
to find him either. That’s the way he wanted it, but he’s doing very well and
he’s very happy and he was just a tremendous talent. I can’t say enough about
him.
JC: Ok. What did you
do after Captain Beyond?
BC: Well, what I did
was put together something with Martin Pugh and we almost had a million dollar
deal from Capitol and this would be about ’83, ’84 and then after, without
going in the reason it didn’t happen, then I started my own band after that and
spent several years doing that and then my parents got sick and when my parents
got sick in the early ‘90s I was recording with people out there and doing
stuff but I had to come back to Florida. Came back to Florida and did my duties
with my family and I was honored to do it and that’s pretty much how that
happened. And about 1999 Rhino called me and asked me if I’d like to put the
band back together and I said, “I don’t think so, Rhino.” I didn’t feel like,
as much as I love Larry, I didn’t feel like it was much of a good business
idea. We were magical as writing partners. As musical writing partners, whew, we
could create things. But I wasn’t so sure that Larry was in the right place in
order to go into doing this and I reluctantly agreed and we did it and it failed
and then that’s what happened and that’s when we did – Rhino and I wrote “Night
Train Calling.” Have you heard that tune?
JC: No. I’ve not heard
it.
BC: Oh well you should
hear those songs. It’s called “Night Train Calling” on Youtube
[readers can hear it by clicking here] and “Be as You
Were”
[readers can hear it by clicking here] and another
one’s called “Gotta Move”
[reader can
hear it by clicking here].
It was kind of a four song little … it
really wasn’t … it really wasn’t finished to really sell and somebody put it
out there but it was some of the last stuff that Larry and I had a chance to
work on. But I think they’re pretty good songs. So that brings us back to
present day.
JC: Speaking of
present day, I see on your website that you’re a minister.
BC: I have a Masters
in Metaphysics. Yeah. I am a metaphysical minister.
JC: What is
metaphysics?
BC: Well let’s just
say, Jeff, metaphysics is to deal with things that are beyond the typical or
what you would normally do. It may require prayer, meditation, and things of
that nature to try to create a positive situation or create the situation you
want. It’s a vast topic of universal law but most people don’t know it but what
you think is what you get. It’s a fact. I mean, you’ve got friends of yours and
they’re always miserable and they’re always unhappy because that’s how they
think. That’s what you attract because everybody … if I could tell you this
real quick so you can hear how this works. Every human being has a soul. It’s
like an antennae. It’s a frequency and the more love that the frequency
carries, the higher the frequency is. The lower the frequency usually denotes
less love within the soul. So when you’re dealing with high frequencies like
when you see pictures of angels when you’re a kid at the church and this and
that and they’re always lit up around, that’s because that’s that level of
frequency they’re emanating. It’s the love they carry and so that’s how it
works. You want to stay in that high frequency of love and being positive and
cutting out all of those things with different folks that even in areas of
cities it’s very negative energy because it’s very low and people cannot pull
themselves away from that and go into the higher meaning of life. Because you
can bring to yourself what you want. You can bring it. You just have to have
such a passion with your emotions and your thought that you will actually make
it materialize. Let me tell you this real quick.
JC: Ok.
BC: This is years
before I had that break with Johnny when I went to that audition. I knew I was
going to get a break. I knew it. I didn’t know how it was going to happen,
Jeff. I didn’t know who it was going to be with, where it was going to be, when
it was going to be. I didn’t know anything. I knew it was coming to me and I
would sit on the edge of my bed at night. I would go out with my girlfriend and
come home or I’d come back from a gig and be exhausted and go, “God I’m tired
and one of these days it’s coming to me. Opportunity is going to come to me.” That’s
all I thought about. It’s called the like attracts like. That’s what
metaphysics is. It’s about how to use your own cosmic inward power everyone has
but don’t know it to try to create your life the way you want essentially. I
hope that helps.
JC: It does.
BC:I could tell you
things. I mean I’ve been into esoterics and all of that field of stuff that
would – you wouldn’t believe actually. You would because I’m not lying to you
but it’s another – it’s sort of a parallel track with my life in music here. And
of course I don’t know if Kim told you but I’m – we’ve reformed Captain Beyond
now.
JC: I’ve heard
something about it. I know that there was a recent Texas concert with the
original line-up that was re-released.
BC: That was a bootleg
that was sort of re-mastered if you will and legitimately put out. It’s gotten
a lot of interest but the interest in Captain Beyond is huge. It just does not
stop. It turns over every 10 years. I mean it’s phenomenal because the music is
legitimate and you don’t hear that music and say, “Oh this sounds like so and
so.” It’s not going to happen and I say that with pride, but not to sound
egocentric, but yeah, there’s so much call to hear the music presented and so I
thought, “Ok. This is the last chance to do it. If I can find the right people
to do it I can play it in the spirit it needs to be played.” They’re not trying
to be somebody they aren’t but to bring the music to people who love the songs,
what’s the harm, and so I’m building a really great band.
Funny
enough, Jeff, the guitar player has been playing with Rhino like the last three
years of his life. Yeah. I mean it’s not ironic and he’s a real Rhino sort of –
I hear it like you hear it Larry kind of guy.
So we’re booked to do some things
in Europe and we’re getting some other things together and we’re going to do a
new album and that may happen before year’s end so there’s a lot going on. And
listen, I have a lot of music left in me before I stop so I figure we’ll put
some years into it. Let’s make it a success. Let’s do something everybody can
be proud of and have fun doing and then everybody can do whatever they want to
do. I mean so it’s kind of where it is at the moment.
Readers who want to
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